From A Voice For Men:
SPLC linked to anti men’s rights subreddit
(AVFM News) Washington D.C. Apr. 24, 2012 –There has been much debate amongst MRAs as to what in particular prompted the SPLC to identify several Men’s Rights groups and websites as hate groups in their 2012 Intelligence Report. The report itself did not give any specific clues and in fact featured mass murderer, George Sodni, a man with absolutely no ties to the movement whatsoever.
Recently, it has been pointed out to AVFM News that a poster on reddit announced shortly after the release of the Agent Orange Files that they were going to contact the SPLC and that she, in fact, had ties there. She later took credit for the organization’s naming of the MRM as a hate movement. This will be the first time that a direct connection between the releasing of the AO files and the actions of the SPLC.
In December of last year A Voice for Men published and article entitled “Radfem Hub, the underbelly of a hate movement” which exposed screenshots from a private Radfem online forum which can only be described as heinous examples of vitriolic hate speech. An MRA going by the name of Agent Orange, along with others, had painstakingly collected the screenshots over a period of time and in addition tracked down the identities of the forum participants. Their names, along with their respective quotes from the screenshots, were featured in the article.
Shortly after publication of this article AVFM announced that Agent Orange had made available online a warehouse of screenshots that included Facebook and Linkedin profiles of Radfem Hub participants along with examples of their postings. This was done in order to expose the hateful activities of feminists and to make aware to the public their intentions. AVFM encouraged MRAs to browse through the files and write their own articles in order to publicize the matter further.
The immediate reaction from feminists all over was that of carefully guarded shock. Articles written by Jezebel and David Frutrele (Manboobz blog author) tried to minimize the impact by posting articles that glibly chided MRAs for doing what they described as a feeble attempt to discredit Radfem Hub and Feminism in general.
However, the reaction from other quarters betrayed panic.
A lawyer from Baltimore named Kathy Brennan, who is also an active member of Radfem Hub, frantically tried to track down the identity of Agent Orange and openly called for his prosecution. She was not successful. Online Feminist forums became suddenly quiet for weeks due to fear among their members that they too would be identified. Calls for action by the FBI were heralded all over the internet in an attempt to get the federal government involved. These too were not successful.
One instance where there was no hiding the panicked reaction of Agent Orange’s targets was a on the Sub Reddit “Shit Reddit Says”; a sub-reddit who’s only apparent aim is nothing more than to discredit the Men’s Rights Movement. As AVFM reported in January, along with the announcement of the Agent Orange files publication, the sub reddit was ablaze with anger and rage directed at AVFM and Agent Orange for publishing the names of Radfem participants. One thread in particular, named “r/mensrights announces their plan to release the private information of RadFem Hub posters” hosted a frenzy of redditors posting their angst and disgust regarding the AVFM’s coverage of the Agent Orange Files.
One redditor calling herself “little tiger,” named the writer of best Effortpost and Best Submitter of 2011 announced four months ago on the SRS thread that she had connections at the SPLC and would try to get them involved. After the SPLC released their intelligence report concerning the MRM she took credit for initiating the report as recently as five days ago on a subreddit called “Subreddit Drama.“
“I have known the folks at SPLC since approximately 2006. I talked to a friend of mine there personally in December after a particularly frightening incident at /r/MR (I did not identify the subreddit specifically or even say it happened on Reddit, just said “a men’s rights group online”), and they essentially told me that they were aware of the MRM already and yeah, sometimes MRAs did frightening things, isn’t the Internet weird blahblah.” she posted in response to an inquiry about her activities on the thread.
Agent Orange contacted AVFM and notified us about littitiger and provided links to her activities on Reddit. (see links below) He also shared with us a brief correspondence with littletiger.
“From me to littletiger:
‘Thank you
‘I wanted to personally thank you for helping get the word out to the SPLC after the Agent Orange release. The press you helped to provided us has allowed us to begin pushing out agendas into India, New Zealand, the Philippines, and Germany. We literally have tens of campus student groups forming across the U.S. as a result of the this.
You see, since the SPLC exposure, folks across the U.S. that had no idea of the issues have been coming to us in droves, and quite a few are telling their families who are in other countries.
‘There are even more articles showing up in publications talking about our issues since the SPLC release, many of them second [guessing] the current paradigm in gender politics.
‘On behalf of the MRM, I’d like to extend a warm thank you, and kindly ask you keep up the good work.
Littletiger responds:
“I want you to know that I also called the SPLC about RadFemHub’s hateful tendency to drop dox on trans women. The problem is doxxing, not the fact that you are an MRA.”
It is curious that in addition to the SPLC not reporting about the Radfem Hubs activities they are also accepting money from them as reported by AVFM previously.
Source:click here
A direct connection to the SPLC and RadFemHub and the SPLC has the nerve to call us names when this is the company they keep. Your hypocrisy knows no bounds SPLC and a lot of those problems of yours are on this blog. The truth comes out. With what they said at that forum I believe law enforcement is the last agency they want to make aware of what was said there.
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Tuesday, April 24, 2012
Wednesday, December 21, 2011
From Agent Orange
Agent Orange files released
December 21, 2011
Robert O'Hara
Featured, News Updates Agent Orange files released
Washington December 21, (AVfM News) Today the files collected by Agent Orange, an MRA who infiltrated a private forum on the Radfem Hub website have been released to the public.
Since AVFM, Antimisandry and What Men are Saying About Women released stories regarding the leaking of threads at Radfem Hub and subsequently the identification of many of the posters readers, both feminists and MRAs alike, have been anxiously awaiting the promised complete files of screen shots and associated materials collected by Agent Orange. Shortly after the news broke Reddit was on fire with comments in a thread called “mensrights announces their plan to release the private information of RadFem Hub posters,” in which Radfem sympathizers accused Agent Orange of enticing terrorism and violence against the Radfem Hub posters by releasing their personal information.
There have even been threats to get the FBI involved even though there is nothing personal about a Facebook or Linkedin profiles. To date, AVFM has not been contacted by the FBI or any other law enforcement agency.
Radfem Hub and other major sources for feminist news and commentary have remained curiously silent on the matter. There is no mention of the release either on Radfem, Jezebel, Feministe or Feministing as might have been expected considering the comments on Reddit. It is assumed, however that much attention has been paid amongst the feminist community to this story and its developments.
With the publication of the Radfem Data it is expected that more identities will be revealed and also that MRAs and other interested parties in the broader press will write about the postings and the implications for the public perception of feminism.
Here is the link for all the published data:
Agent Orange Files
Source:click here
Saturday, September 7, 2013
Another perspective of femitheist
It all starts innocently by Lucian Valsan
Apparently, there’s a debate, a discussion if you prefer, within the AVFM’s inner circle and MRM circles in general regarding whether the outing of Krista Milburn (also known as Femitheist) was the right thing to do.
I must confess that I am still appalled that this discussion takes place to begin with. At the end of the day, there’s no difference between the Krista Milburn business and The Agent Orange files episode. In both cases, some particularly sick individuals advocating mass murder, child abuse, eugenics, genocide and other practices worthy of the Third Reich or the Soviet Union were exposed for the whole world to see what they really think and talk about when they are under the protection of anonymity. So why is this particular case somehow different?
The words of two MRAs that I respect made me write this article. Had it not been for them, I would have dismissed the issue as non-relevant whilst sending a big thumbs up to JtO for his work.
One of the two MRAs that I respect told me that Krista Milburn poses no threat for men whatsoever. But is it really the case? At the moment of writing these words, Krista Milburn’s Youtube Channel has 11451 subscribers. By comparison, Paul Elam’s channel has 9206 subscribers. That’s right. The founder of this place, against whom an American national media venue is preparing a hit piece for alleged crimes of eating kittens has LESS influence and less subscribers than the piece of human vermin called Krista Milburn who, amongst other things, advocated the reduction of male population to negligible dimensions — a goal which she has never abandoned.
According to Krista Milburn, she supports a 90:10 female-male ratio and hopes to accomplish this through non-violent means but she does “not endorse achieving this by engaging in any sort of killing, genocide, or any other enactments of violence against anyone.”[1] According to her supporters (surprisingly some MRAs amongst them) this statement of hers is supposed to calm me so I no longer despise this piece of human vermin because cute little Krista doesn’t want to castrate or kill all men (or at least now she says she doesn’t want that anymore) – but just happens to hold the same views as other genocidal maniacs of the tormented history of Europe.
At the end of the day, Adolf Hitler didn’t always envision concentration camps and mass killings. In 1920, in Salzburg (Austria), the young, dashing and charismatic Adolf was talking only about the eradication of the “Jewish spirit”[2]. Nothing about mass murders that did happen at the end of the day.
In the same period, Vladimir Ilyich Lenin was talking about “peace through socialism and classless society after taking down the bourgeois spirit”. Nothing about the Gulags, the NKVD (later on the KGB), the brainwashing through torture experiments like Pitești or Aiud conducted including on children[3]. But these things happened.
Also, more recently, Charles Manson created his own cult of deranged individuals – only this time it was not a Party but a Family – and his creation impressed numerous remarkable people who called this “the whole Charlie Manson package.”
What do Charles Manson, Vladimir Lenin and Adolf Hitler have in common? For starters, all three of them were egocentric maniacs. Second of all, none of them killed anybody. Thirdly, all of them are responsible for trying to “change the world” by force whilst practicing the doublespeak of non-violence in their early days. The rest is just a question of nuance and semantics. The tenets are identical.
Is it really far fetched to compare Krista Milburn with those three? Perhaps it is. But think of it this way: Nobody thought of Lenin in 1914, of Hitler in 1918 or of Manson in 1954 as individuals even remotely dangerous for the society – despite the fact that all three of them had already expressed utopian totalitarian views.
A better example than those three is Nicolae Ceaușescu. The ruthless Romanian dictator even served prison time in his early 20s for spreading Communist agitation and ideas that decades after were to become the tenets of his dictatorship, a dictatorship that was to become the most oppressive in the former Eastern Block which took a quarter of a century to overturn. Ceaușescu also advocated non-violent means to achieve the Socialist paradise. And even now there are some sick individuals who dare to defend him.
How were all these possible? Because as the old say goes, in order for the evil to prevail, it’s enough that good men do nothing. Very few (virtually nobody) did anything to stop these maniacs while it was still possible.
After the fall of the Berlin Wall and the fall of the USSR, a significant majority of people declared themselves outraged when very few good men decided to publish all the secret files about all the individuals. The pressure was immense in all the Eastern Block countries. However, good men disregarded the calls for ”compassion” and outed the former members of the repressive apparatus. Had it not been for all those good men, the history of the last 25 years in some of the European countries could’ve been entirely different.
And this brings us back to Krista Milburn – an egocentric utopian totalitarian maniac who under the guise of a neotenous face and claims of “non-violence” advocates for nothing less than yet another cleansing of the human population – this time along sex lines, as opposed to religious lines (Hitler), racial lines (Manson) or class lines (Lenin).
And here we are, with a lot of people, including some MRAs, calling us to tone down because “she’s not really a danger” or “she hasn’t done anything yet”. Or, some other people calling “free speech” on what she’s advocating – as if AVfM had demanded to shut her up. On the contrary – more free speech to Krista, please! And, if possible, with more audience, for the whole world to see the piece of human vermin she is.
Free speech, however, doesn’t mean free reign, nor does it mean that her right to free speech trumps the responsibilities that come with it. Just because she has a vagina and an arguably attractive face doesn’t mean she’s potentially any less dangerous than any other egocentric maniac.
If she really means what she’s saying (and I, for one, take her very seriously), then she, and her defenders, shouldn’t have any problem with her taking the responsibility for what she’s saying.
Let me be more clear: If this piece of human refuse were to be in my community – I’d love to know up front. If she were to be employed in a store from which I buy food, I’d like to know so I can stop buying food from that store until she’s either fired or the store goes bankrupt. If she were a teacher in the school where my kids or my nieces are going, I’d love to know that, so I can move them away as soon as possible. Because at the end of the day, not even her defenders would let their own sons to be educated by Krista. At least not as long as they are in their right minds.
Does what I say lack compassion for her? Yes, and I do. Call it my “intolerant nature” if you like. I tend to be highly intolerant with fascists, eugenic maniacs, former members of the Politburo, Communists and other totalitarian-oriented Utopian thinkers. If I had been more tolerant with these kinds of individuals, I’d still be living in hell – so no, thank you.
Another MRA that I respect tried to tell me that she is now redeeming herself and no longer advocates for mass killings. Well, I’ve seen former torturers in gulags claiming to now be advocating for democracy and/or freedom and at the first sign of trouble came back to their original ideas. So these kinds of attitudes coming from Krista should be treated at the very least with extreme skepticism if not outright dismissed.
Maybe I am too tired for this shit. Maybe I am too much of a grumpy Eastern European to get the nuances of this egocentric, nihilistic psychopath. Maybe. But, at the end of the day, I’ve seen this film before and each time nobody did anything about it before things went very wrong.
I wish I were wrong but for now it has been the case every single time that human beings learned one thing and one thing only from history: the fact that humans learn absolutely nothing from history.
Source:click here
I've had the same arguements with those white knights over there so I know how he feels. Lucian presents a strong arguement which supports what I've been saying: why grief over a fallen foe? Even if she never harms anyone herself she is still influencing others and they might turn her ideas into action. This is what I said.
Apparently, there’s a debate, a discussion if you prefer, within the AVFM’s inner circle and MRM circles in general regarding whether the outing of Krista Milburn (also known as Femitheist) was the right thing to do.
I must confess that I am still appalled that this discussion takes place to begin with. At the end of the day, there’s no difference between the Krista Milburn business and The Agent Orange files episode. In both cases, some particularly sick individuals advocating mass murder, child abuse, eugenics, genocide and other practices worthy of the Third Reich or the Soviet Union were exposed for the whole world to see what they really think and talk about when they are under the protection of anonymity. So why is this particular case somehow different?
The words of two MRAs that I respect made me write this article. Had it not been for them, I would have dismissed the issue as non-relevant whilst sending a big thumbs up to JtO for his work.
One of the two MRAs that I respect told me that Krista Milburn poses no threat for men whatsoever. But is it really the case? At the moment of writing these words, Krista Milburn’s Youtube Channel has 11451 subscribers. By comparison, Paul Elam’s channel has 9206 subscribers. That’s right. The founder of this place, against whom an American national media venue is preparing a hit piece for alleged crimes of eating kittens has LESS influence and less subscribers than the piece of human vermin called Krista Milburn who, amongst other things, advocated the reduction of male population to negligible dimensions — a goal which she has never abandoned.
According to Krista Milburn, she supports a 90:10 female-male ratio and hopes to accomplish this through non-violent means but she does “not endorse achieving this by engaging in any sort of killing, genocide, or any other enactments of violence against anyone.”[1] According to her supporters (surprisingly some MRAs amongst them) this statement of hers is supposed to calm me so I no longer despise this piece of human vermin because cute little Krista doesn’t want to castrate or kill all men (or at least now she says she doesn’t want that anymore) – but just happens to hold the same views as other genocidal maniacs of the tormented history of Europe.
At the end of the day, Adolf Hitler didn’t always envision concentration camps and mass killings. In 1920, in Salzburg (Austria), the young, dashing and charismatic Adolf was talking only about the eradication of the “Jewish spirit”[2]. Nothing about mass murders that did happen at the end of the day.
In the same period, Vladimir Ilyich Lenin was talking about “peace through socialism and classless society after taking down the bourgeois spirit”. Nothing about the Gulags, the NKVD (later on the KGB), the brainwashing through torture experiments like Pitești or Aiud conducted including on children[3]. But these things happened.
Also, more recently, Charles Manson created his own cult of deranged individuals – only this time it was not a Party but a Family – and his creation impressed numerous remarkable people who called this “the whole Charlie Manson package.”
What do Charles Manson, Vladimir Lenin and Adolf Hitler have in common? For starters, all three of them were egocentric maniacs. Second of all, none of them killed anybody. Thirdly, all of them are responsible for trying to “change the world” by force whilst practicing the doublespeak of non-violence in their early days. The rest is just a question of nuance and semantics. The tenets are identical.
Is it really far fetched to compare Krista Milburn with those three? Perhaps it is. But think of it this way: Nobody thought of Lenin in 1914, of Hitler in 1918 or of Manson in 1954 as individuals even remotely dangerous for the society – despite the fact that all three of them had already expressed utopian totalitarian views.
A better example than those three is Nicolae Ceaușescu. The ruthless Romanian dictator even served prison time in his early 20s for spreading Communist agitation and ideas that decades after were to become the tenets of his dictatorship, a dictatorship that was to become the most oppressive in the former Eastern Block which took a quarter of a century to overturn. Ceaușescu also advocated non-violent means to achieve the Socialist paradise. And even now there are some sick individuals who dare to defend him.
How were all these possible? Because as the old say goes, in order for the evil to prevail, it’s enough that good men do nothing. Very few (virtually nobody) did anything to stop these maniacs while it was still possible.
After the fall of the Berlin Wall and the fall of the USSR, a significant majority of people declared themselves outraged when very few good men decided to publish all the secret files about all the individuals. The pressure was immense in all the Eastern Block countries. However, good men disregarded the calls for ”compassion” and outed the former members of the repressive apparatus. Had it not been for all those good men, the history of the last 25 years in some of the European countries could’ve been entirely different.
And this brings us back to Krista Milburn – an egocentric utopian totalitarian maniac who under the guise of a neotenous face and claims of “non-violence” advocates for nothing less than yet another cleansing of the human population – this time along sex lines, as opposed to religious lines (Hitler), racial lines (Manson) or class lines (Lenin).
And here we are, with a lot of people, including some MRAs, calling us to tone down because “she’s not really a danger” or “she hasn’t done anything yet”. Or, some other people calling “free speech” on what she’s advocating – as if AVfM had demanded to shut her up. On the contrary – more free speech to Krista, please! And, if possible, with more audience, for the whole world to see the piece of human vermin she is.
Free speech, however, doesn’t mean free reign, nor does it mean that her right to free speech trumps the responsibilities that come with it. Just because she has a vagina and an arguably attractive face doesn’t mean she’s potentially any less dangerous than any other egocentric maniac.
If she really means what she’s saying (and I, for one, take her very seriously), then she, and her defenders, shouldn’t have any problem with her taking the responsibility for what she’s saying.
Let me be more clear: If this piece of human refuse were to be in my community – I’d love to know up front. If she were to be employed in a store from which I buy food, I’d like to know so I can stop buying food from that store until she’s either fired or the store goes bankrupt. If she were a teacher in the school where my kids or my nieces are going, I’d love to know that, so I can move them away as soon as possible. Because at the end of the day, not even her defenders would let their own sons to be educated by Krista. At least not as long as they are in their right minds.
Does what I say lack compassion for her? Yes, and I do. Call it my “intolerant nature” if you like. I tend to be highly intolerant with fascists, eugenic maniacs, former members of the Politburo, Communists and other totalitarian-oriented Utopian thinkers. If I had been more tolerant with these kinds of individuals, I’d still be living in hell – so no, thank you.
Another MRA that I respect tried to tell me that she is now redeeming herself and no longer advocates for mass killings. Well, I’ve seen former torturers in gulags claiming to now be advocating for democracy and/or freedom and at the first sign of trouble came back to their original ideas. So these kinds of attitudes coming from Krista should be treated at the very least with extreme skepticism if not outright dismissed.
Maybe I am too tired for this shit. Maybe I am too much of a grumpy Eastern European to get the nuances of this egocentric, nihilistic psychopath. Maybe. But, at the end of the day, I’ve seen this film before and each time nobody did anything about it before things went very wrong.
I wish I were wrong but for now it has been the case every single time that human beings learned one thing and one thing only from history: the fact that humans learn absolutely nothing from history.
Source:click here
I've had the same arguements with those white knights over there so I know how he feels. Lucian presents a strong arguement which supports what I've been saying: why grief over a fallen foe? Even if she never harms anyone herself she is still influencing others and they might turn her ideas into action. This is what I said.
Monday, April 22, 2013
More on Cathy Brennan
I just wrote a response to some feminazi calling me a racist on Cathy Brennan's site and it didn't show up. No waiting for approval nothing. Perhaps this is the intolerance that got Brennan and her ilk in trouble in the first place. I thought it was very chickenshit for her to ban me. She goes on about how women are oppressed yet she acts as an oppressor herself. People pick up on this hypocrisy and they don't like it that is why they shun Brennan and those like her. If she and those like her have a hard time grasping that concept then perhaps the cancellation of their event should serve as a wake up call.
If you've never seen the Agent Orange Files then take a look. It is a very informative read. Read about how Brennan vowed to persecute those that would stand up to her. Read about how she acts like a nazi persecutor which is very far from the victim narrative that she likes to throw around.
If you've never seen the Agent Orange Files then take a look. It is a very informative read. Read about how Brennan vowed to persecute those that would stand up to her. Read about how she acts like a nazi persecutor which is very far from the victim narrative that she likes to throw around.
Saturday, March 17, 2012
Just say no to Jane and Gloria
Jane Fonda and Gloria Steinem want to censor Rush Limbaugh for his comments concerning Sandra Fluke. First of all Rush has the right to say what he wants as the 1st Amendment gives him that right,whether Fonda or Steinem like it or not. If these two are such champions of "doing the right thing" then perhaps Hanoi Jane can do some time for her treasonous acts against the United States during a time of war, specifically the Viet Nam War. If a man has done what Hanoi Jane did he would have been sentenced for treason and quite possibly dead by now. If Steinem has no problem with censorship then she doesn't mind if feminist forums and blogs are censored. After all there is a lot of evil things said on these forums and blogs,the Agent Orange files prove this. So how about it you two? Do you want to play censorship where both sides are shut down or do you just want to continue to talk out of your asses,demonstrating your hypocrisy? I already have a feeling I know which one you'll choose.
Sunday, July 7, 2013
Radfem 2013 cancelled
From A Voice For Men:
Radfem’s wretchedness In Toronto
by Dan Perrins
On July 5 – 7, 2013 society’s ‘sisters of misandry’ had plans for an event they called “RadFem Rise Up! 2013 Toronto Conference” to be held at the Beaver Hall Gallery in Toronto Ontario. Unlike previous radfem events, this one had its location and program kept secret. No doubt this is due to the cancellation of their London event earlier this year.
Right now in the wee hours of the morning as I write this the situation currently stands like this; there is the claim that the Beaver Hall Gallery has canceled the booking by the radfem organizers. The radfem organizers are claiming their event is still on. While it is difficult to pinpoint exactly who originally leaked the location of the event, the complaints about radfems were the same as before: ‘radfems are anti trans’ and ‘radfems are anti sexworker.’
I have to say I am disappointed in two ways. First not only are radfems anti-sex-worker and anti-trans, they are extremely anti-male. From their ideology to the comments in their essays they demonstrate the most outspoken form of male hatred hidden behind the neoteny of the female face that I’ve ever witnessed. The fact that their hatred for half the human race is overlooked in the complaints about the radfems is something that should not, nay can not be ignored anymore.
No society, movement, or activist can truthfully claim to be about equality when they overlook hatred for males. Or any other enumerated group for that matter (Hello SPLC are you paying attention yet?). I am also disappointed to hear that they had their event cancelled. I was actually hoping they would have a venue to speak at because I wanted to go and hand out flyers with some of their classy comments.
For those of you not familiar with those loving radfem quotes, let me provide you with some examples. On October 5, 2011 at 6:33 am a user on the radfem hub named Lilith had this to say about radical feminism entering the 21′st century;
Even if we killed off 90% of men, the majority of women left over would do their best to keep the oppressive system. I’d dare say we’d have to kill off all the women too and leave the little girls and radfems to create the utopia. Great post. Just what I’ve needed to read to help clarify what exactly Radical Feminism is today.
From the Agent Orange Files we have a wonderful quote by Luckynkl alluding to biological solution to gendercide;
So if we can come up with a biological weapon that can be ingested and kill off the Y Chromosome in a man’s sperm count, we’re almost home. We can all get hired as waitresses or chefs or work at McDonald’s and sprinkle it into the food or something… It’s not a quick solution. It will take about 2 generations to cull males. But it will work.” (Don’t worry ladies in the full quote she lets us know she wasn’t going to ask your permission to ‘cull’ off your male children.)
Can’t you just feel the love being sprinkled forth by Lucky?
On a blog called twanzphobic.wordpress.com in the comment thread from an article called “Militancy is our only option“ we find these gems discussing the killing of males;
survivorthriver says:
25 April, 2011 at 00:19
Hey, thanks BB for sending me over here, and here I am! I do remember feminist discussions in the early 1970′s where a conscious choice was made NOT to be militant because the MIC is so over-powerful we’d just be wiped out before any spread of the feminist meme was possible. I heard elsewhere that a good model for targeting militant action was SHAC (Stop Huntington Animal Cruelty) where some individuals researched those responsible, and had a Tor browser protected wiki site where they reported their findings, and other individuals were free to take direct action against those individuals/sites. The researchers must not recommend any actions, nor have any connection to those who would take direct action.I’m thinking that the ancient female wisdom of poisoning is relevant. The elites require 4,000 remoras (think those tiny fish that groom the sharks) for maintenance. A well-connected caterer needs lots of part-time remoras and who would know if a friend sashayed in with a vial of….please let me know if this violates security speech or if there is a better venue for details…”
The reply from FAB LIBBER (site owner)
FAB Libber says:
25 April, 2011 at 00:48
“Hiya ST, welcome.
Many good things to think about. Definitely divvying up roles within the (non-)organisation is a good thing. We also might need things like a pool of funds for bail money and stuff. But, probably best not to talk in too much detail in public. (emphasis mine)The important message that the dudes need to understand – you have pushed us far enough, and we will fight back. Totally sick of your pornsick, dickcentric world. An uprising is coming, it is in the wind.”
Then those fun time radfems eventually let their inner child free and coin the term ‘menocide play’
joy says:
25 April, 2011 at 21:10
Menocide play, yes, I do think I like that.My tactic right now is to say it in that “joking” tone of voice that I have — the one I’ve cultivated that confuses men more than usual, “Is she serious, is she joking, or is she just so much cooler than I am that I don’t get it? Must be that, so I should play along lest she stop thinking I’m cool.” (It’s a reversal of a concept in the SCUM Manifesto, actually, and it plays on male insecurity the way they typically play on ours. Also, I really am just a lot cooler than any given dude anyway.)So they laugh, “Haha, menocide! I don’t get it. She’s just really radical and making a really radical joke that I don’t get because I’m square. She wouldn’t really ever do anything bad though. I do get that!”Boy, won’t they be really surprised someday.But it was all in play, officer. You can’t take any of this seriously. After all, when you come right down to it, it’s just a man’s word against mine, and we all know men lie out their asses all the time.”Sargasso Sea says:
25 April, 2011 at 21:21
“Joy is my sister!”
I can certainly see why the SPLC doesn’t consider these loving ladies a hate group, what with how they keep on talking about putting a ‘special-radfem’ dash of love into all our meals. These are the comments and thoughts I would have loved to pass-out on behalf of the radfems around their event. I really and truly wish to be helpful in spreading their words around. They typed them out with full knowledge of what messages the words carried. I want society to be able to decide for themselves about radfems.
Let the radfems be known by their words and actions, I say.
That brings me back to the organizer I spoke of at the beginning of this piece. I think its time to introduce her and for us all to get better acquainted. On twitter she goes by @demonista she runs a site called demonista.wordpress.com and describes herself as a “FREEGAN VEGAN RADICAL FEMINIST, WITH ANARCHIST LEANINGS”
Her real name is Winnie Small.
On her twitter page shortly before midnight last night she tweeted that the radfem event was still on.
Winnie Small @demonista 6h
RadFem Riseup! http://wp.me/p3FqZA-1r via @wordpressdotcom #radfemriseup is still on.
Winnie’s tweeted article is a short 7 sentence paragraph. Given she is one of the organizers and tweeted it we can come to the conclusion she knows the contents.
Despite hundreds of threats of death and violence directed at women and at the venue staff, the RadFem Riseup conference IS GOING FORWARD. We are having a great time with some wonderful women, gearing up for a day of presentations and strategy tomorrow. For every threat of violence we receive, another woman wakes up to the reality of the situation. Every death threat strengthens our resolve. We will not be prevented from meeting. We will not be prevented from organizing. We will not be prevented from rising up.”
The author claims there were numerous threats directed at women and venue staff.
Around 1 am last night a tweet by Janelle Flemming informs us that Winnie and the author (lexyjohn) are lying.
Janelle Flemming @janelleflemming According to a gallery committee member, Beaver Hall Gallery did not receive any death threats #lies #radfem #RadFemRiseUp #sexwork #topoli
As one of the organizers, Winnie would have a history of correspondence with the hosts of the radfem event. Therefore, it would be easy for her to request an email, text a witness statement, or a copy of the evidence to corroborate the claims in the announcement posted by lexyjohn. And if she did have evidence of what is claimed why is it not being broadcast for the world to see? If there were threats made, why haven’t the police been notified? If the police were notified why has Winnie or lexy not announced it?
What does this mean? Is the event cancelled, or is it still on?
I find it easy to believe that Winnie and the wonder-womb warriors are still going to have their talks in or around the Toronto area this weekend. I also believe the hashtag #lies used by Janelle in her tweet refuting the claim of threats made by Winnie and the coven of crazy is accurate.
I know that Winnie and the radfem’s allegations are without merit and unsubstantiated, and that behind closed doors and left to their own devices the radfems will enjoy discussing and planning their Menocide play.
Source:click here
Let's get the jokes out of the way. Thanks to Dan Perrins for writing this article. I know Dan is disappointed the event was cancelled because he wanted to pass out flyers stating the facts that radfem would rather keep quiet. I put up flyers advertisizing The Liberator that was published by the Men's Defense Association back in the '90's before the internet was made public. I also wrote letters to the editor at my local paper and others protesting misandry and female privilege. I received no help from other men and a lot of women attacked me. But I felt like I made a difference. I can understand Dan being disappointed. I look at it this way: we've done our job. Our job was to expose their vile misandry to the public and we've done that. We've let the world know what they are about and the world has rejected them. Which it should. There is no need for Dan to feel bad. He has done his job just like the rest us have and that is something to feel good about.
Radfem’s wretchedness In Toronto
by Dan Perrins
On July 5 – 7, 2013 society’s ‘sisters of misandry’ had plans for an event they called “RadFem Rise Up! 2013 Toronto Conference” to be held at the Beaver Hall Gallery in Toronto Ontario. Unlike previous radfem events, this one had its location and program kept secret. No doubt this is due to the cancellation of their London event earlier this year.
Right now in the wee hours of the morning as I write this the situation currently stands like this; there is the claim that the Beaver Hall Gallery has canceled the booking by the radfem organizers. The radfem organizers are claiming their event is still on. While it is difficult to pinpoint exactly who originally leaked the location of the event, the complaints about radfems were the same as before: ‘radfems are anti trans’ and ‘radfems are anti sexworker.’
I have to say I am disappointed in two ways. First not only are radfems anti-sex-worker and anti-trans, they are extremely anti-male. From their ideology to the comments in their essays they demonstrate the most outspoken form of male hatred hidden behind the neoteny of the female face that I’ve ever witnessed. The fact that their hatred for half the human race is overlooked in the complaints about the radfems is something that should not, nay can not be ignored anymore.
No society, movement, or activist can truthfully claim to be about equality when they overlook hatred for males. Or any other enumerated group for that matter (Hello SPLC are you paying attention yet?). I am also disappointed to hear that they had their event cancelled. I was actually hoping they would have a venue to speak at because I wanted to go and hand out flyers with some of their classy comments.
For those of you not familiar with those loving radfem quotes, let me provide you with some examples. On October 5, 2011 at 6:33 am a user on the radfem hub named Lilith had this to say about radical feminism entering the 21′st century;
Even if we killed off 90% of men, the majority of women left over would do their best to keep the oppressive system. I’d dare say we’d have to kill off all the women too and leave the little girls and radfems to create the utopia. Great post. Just what I’ve needed to read to help clarify what exactly Radical Feminism is today.
From the Agent Orange Files we have a wonderful quote by Luckynkl alluding to biological solution to gendercide;
So if we can come up with a biological weapon that can be ingested and kill off the Y Chromosome in a man’s sperm count, we’re almost home. We can all get hired as waitresses or chefs or work at McDonald’s and sprinkle it into the food or something… It’s not a quick solution. It will take about 2 generations to cull males. But it will work.” (Don’t worry ladies in the full quote she lets us know she wasn’t going to ask your permission to ‘cull’ off your male children.)
Can’t you just feel the love being sprinkled forth by Lucky?
On a blog called twanzphobic.wordpress.com in the comment thread from an article called “Militancy is our only option“ we find these gems discussing the killing of males;
survivorthriver says:
25 April, 2011 at 00:19
Hey, thanks BB for sending me over here, and here I am! I do remember feminist discussions in the early 1970′s where a conscious choice was made NOT to be militant because the MIC is so over-powerful we’d just be wiped out before any spread of the feminist meme was possible. I heard elsewhere that a good model for targeting militant action was SHAC (Stop Huntington Animal Cruelty) where some individuals researched those responsible, and had a Tor browser protected wiki site where they reported their findings, and other individuals were free to take direct action against those individuals/sites. The researchers must not recommend any actions, nor have any connection to those who would take direct action.I’m thinking that the ancient female wisdom of poisoning is relevant. The elites require 4,000 remoras (think those tiny fish that groom the sharks) for maintenance. A well-connected caterer needs lots of part-time remoras and who would know if a friend sashayed in with a vial of….please let me know if this violates security speech or if there is a better venue for details…”
The reply from FAB LIBBER (site owner)
FAB Libber says:
25 April, 2011 at 00:48
“Hiya ST, welcome.
Many good things to think about. Definitely divvying up roles within the (non-)organisation is a good thing. We also might need things like a pool of funds for bail money and stuff. But, probably best not to talk in too much detail in public. (emphasis mine)The important message that the dudes need to understand – you have pushed us far enough, and we will fight back. Totally sick of your pornsick, dickcentric world. An uprising is coming, it is in the wind.”
Then those fun time radfems eventually let their inner child free and coin the term ‘menocide play’
joy says:
25 April, 2011 at 21:10
Menocide play, yes, I do think I like that.My tactic right now is to say it in that “joking” tone of voice that I have — the one I’ve cultivated that confuses men more than usual, “Is she serious, is she joking, or is she just so much cooler than I am that I don’t get it? Must be that, so I should play along lest she stop thinking I’m cool.” (It’s a reversal of a concept in the SCUM Manifesto, actually, and it plays on male insecurity the way they typically play on ours. Also, I really am just a lot cooler than any given dude anyway.)So they laugh, “Haha, menocide! I don’t get it. She’s just really radical and making a really radical joke that I don’t get because I’m square. She wouldn’t really ever do anything bad though. I do get that!”Boy, won’t they be really surprised someday.But it was all in play, officer. You can’t take any of this seriously. After all, when you come right down to it, it’s just a man’s word against mine, and we all know men lie out their asses all the time.”Sargasso Sea says:
25 April, 2011 at 21:21
“Joy is my sister!”
I can certainly see why the SPLC doesn’t consider these loving ladies a hate group, what with how they keep on talking about putting a ‘special-radfem’ dash of love into all our meals. These are the comments and thoughts I would have loved to pass-out on behalf of the radfems around their event. I really and truly wish to be helpful in spreading their words around. They typed them out with full knowledge of what messages the words carried. I want society to be able to decide for themselves about radfems.
Let the radfems be known by their words and actions, I say.
That brings me back to the organizer I spoke of at the beginning of this piece. I think its time to introduce her and for us all to get better acquainted. On twitter she goes by @demonista she runs a site called demonista.wordpress.com and describes herself as a “FREEGAN VEGAN RADICAL FEMINIST, WITH ANARCHIST LEANINGS”
Her real name is Winnie Small.
On her twitter page shortly before midnight last night she tweeted that the radfem event was still on.
Winnie Small @demonista 6h
RadFem Riseup! http://wp.me/p3FqZA-1r via @wordpressdotcom #radfemriseup is still on.
Winnie’s tweeted article is a short 7 sentence paragraph. Given she is one of the organizers and tweeted it we can come to the conclusion she knows the contents.
Despite hundreds of threats of death and violence directed at women and at the venue staff, the RadFem Riseup conference IS GOING FORWARD. We are having a great time with some wonderful women, gearing up for a day of presentations and strategy tomorrow. For every threat of violence we receive, another woman wakes up to the reality of the situation. Every death threat strengthens our resolve. We will not be prevented from meeting. We will not be prevented from organizing. We will not be prevented from rising up.”
The author claims there were numerous threats directed at women and venue staff.
Around 1 am last night a tweet by Janelle Flemming informs us that Winnie and the author (lexyjohn) are lying.
Janelle Flemming @janelleflemming According to a gallery committee member, Beaver Hall Gallery did not receive any death threats #lies #radfem #RadFemRiseUp #sexwork #topoli
As one of the organizers, Winnie would have a history of correspondence with the hosts of the radfem event. Therefore, it would be easy for her to request an email, text a witness statement, or a copy of the evidence to corroborate the claims in the announcement posted by lexyjohn. And if she did have evidence of what is claimed why is it not being broadcast for the world to see? If there were threats made, why haven’t the police been notified? If the police were notified why has Winnie or lexy not announced it?
What does this mean? Is the event cancelled, or is it still on?
I find it easy to believe that Winnie and the wonder-womb warriors are still going to have their talks in or around the Toronto area this weekend. I also believe the hashtag #lies used by Janelle in her tweet refuting the claim of threats made by Winnie and the coven of crazy is accurate.
I know that Winnie and the radfem’s allegations are without merit and unsubstantiated, and that behind closed doors and left to their own devices the radfems will enjoy discussing and planning their Menocide play.
Source:click here
Let's get the jokes out of the way. Thanks to Dan Perrins for writing this article. I know Dan is disappointed the event was cancelled because he wanted to pass out flyers stating the facts that radfem would rather keep quiet. I put up flyers advertisizing The Liberator that was published by the Men's Defense Association back in the '90's before the internet was made public. I also wrote letters to the editor at my local paper and others protesting misandry and female privilege. I received no help from other men and a lot of women attacked me. But I felt like I made a difference. I can understand Dan being disappointed. I look at it this way: we've done our job. Our job was to expose their vile misandry to the public and we've done that. We've let the world know what they are about and the world has rejected them. Which it should. There is no need for Dan to feel bad. He has done his job just like the rest us have and that is something to feel good about.
Monday, March 26, 2012
More on the SPLC
You might recall how the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) put on its list various men's rights groups that they listed as "hate groups" click here. Well now there are other groups that SPLC labeled as "hate groups" yet they aren't. Here is a list of these so-called "hate groups" (no,they are not MRA's):
link 1
link 2
link 3
link 4
The thing is that Radfemhub is collecting donations for the SPLC. The irony is that Radfemhub is an actual hate group,in fact they are the ones whose posts were in the agent orange files. So why is SPLC working with Radfemhub? Birds of a feather flock together,even if they are birds of hate.
The thing is that Radfemhub is collecting donations for the SPLC. The irony is that Radfemhub is an actual hate group,in fact they are the ones whose posts were in the agent orange files. So why is SPLC working with Radfemhub? Birds of a feather flock together,even if they are birds of hate.
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